Girnhill Lane Archived News 5

[Forkhandles]

BLOODY HELL!!!!!!!!!! that sounds serious

[fev angel]

Another new twist provided by the Girnhell demolition experts.
So intense were the works to demolish empty homes on Girnhill lane on Friday that the vibrations travelled across the road to the private homes. One man asleep in bed was awoken by the noise and mortar falling down his own cavity walls. After getting out of bed the man could not help but notice various parts of his wooden floors now creaking. This person is now seeking advice.

omg how long will it take befor some one has checked it 

[Kim685]

That doesn't sound good at all 

[yetion1]

There is always a “twist” to the Girnhell story. The latest demolishing contractor left the site today ahead of time. The last 3 homes he was due to demolish are next to 2 occupied homes. The problems then start. It appears that many years ago some dimwit decided to burry the gas mains only 2 ft down. Any demolition would rupture the pipe. The only way to work would be to cut the homes off. WMDC appear to have failed to get this sorted.
Does anyone know the regulation for the depth a gas main should be buried? Two ft sounds wrong. Perhaps the residents could call HSE and demand a new gas main that would cost £60k plus. Always a good bargaining tool.

An update on the shutters. This is the written correspondence when the question was put to Janet Howley
2.3   Para 3.1 - JH updated on the current use of screens and a lockable door. GY disagrees that this product is the optimum, but Orbis are the market leader. JH to feed points back to the estate management team.

How difficult is it to decide a steel plate is stronger than tin foil.

[saneasaduck]

How deep should gas mains and services be laid?
Introduction
The Health and Safety Executive [HSE] receives a number of enquiries each year about the minimum depth at which gas mains and services should be laid. Often the enquiries are prompted when members of the public damage pipes at home (for example when gardening) or contractors damage pipes when carrying out work at domestic premises (for example when relaying driveways).

This information document summarises the legal requirements concerning how deep gas mains and services should be laid and the precautions required to minimise the risk of damage to pipes from third party activities. The guidance should be considered as minimum good practice standards.

Minimum depth requirements
Gas mains and service pipes should be designed and installed in accordance with the requirements of the Pipelines Safety Regulations 1996 (PSR). PSR does not specify how deep mains and services should be laid.

However, the Regulations are supported by HSE guidance 'A guide to the Pipelines Safety Regulations 1996' and there is also a Health & Safety Commission [HSC] Approved Code of Practice and Guidance 'Design, construction and installation of gas service pipes'.

These publications refer to the Institution of Gas Engineers' guidance 'IGE/TD/3 Distribution Mains' and 'IGE/TD/4: Gas services' which specify the minimum depth of cover which gas mains and services should be laid in order to minimise the risk of accidental third party damage.

HSE expects mains and services to be laid at the depths specified in these publications unless other effective precautions are taken to minimise the risk of third party damage.

A gas main should normally be laid with a minimum depth of cover of 750 mm in a road or verge and 600 mm in a footpath.
A gas service pipe should normally be laid with a minimum depth of cover of 375 mm in private ground and 450 mm in footpaths and highways.
However, these depths are only a guide and should not be relied on when carrying out work near gas services or mains. For example, road levelling, landscaping and other changes to ground conditions after a gas main or service has been laid (often decades before) can result in the depth of the ground cover changing over time. Also, gas pipes may have projections coming from them, such as valves, which are not shown on plans and may have less depth of cover than the pipe

[yetion1]

That’s a great answer in the spirit of helping others. Thanks.
That’s a dam good set of information Saneasaduck. It looks at first I may have to eat my words as 2 ft is not far off 600mm. the contractor must know something more than 600mmm to pull off especially when the rest of the estate except one area has had no problems. The one area that did had a gas leak after a low dug pipe was ruptured. Apparently cost a fortune to fix. I will have to read what you have pointed out first, unless perhaps you know a depth that should be worked to?

[saneasaduck]

todays regs state •Outside underground natural gas steel pipe should have at least 12 inches (0.3 m) of cover.
•Plastic pipes with natural gas should have at least 18 inches (0.45 m) of cover.
does not seem alot i do know going back 10 years or so we had to dig down at least a metre.

[yetion1]

Politics is a funny old game. Almost as funny as the new slur Featherstone labour supporters are attempting.
Labour: “Independent Cllrs have not tried to help the poor Girnhell residents”. What about the 5 years of supporting letters and on the spot help? What about the present Ombudsman investigation begun as WMDC refuse to listen or act?
Cllr Dick comments “I will make public the town clerks happenings”. Sadly that is exactly what he cannot do has he has just joined the freedom of information club.
What he could do is use his title and write a letter of support for a like for like deal just like the residents have all ways asked for.
The Girnhell war is far from over and will be entering its final battle shortly. Will Cllr Dick toe the party line or help the people?
The evidence on this forum tells the story. Where and when did labour help?

[yetion1]

Wondered when toeing the labour party line would have to come in to effect.
There are 4 residents remaining on the GirnHELL estate. One happens to be a full blown life long labour party supporter. You would think he would be the last to be bullied…. Wrong!
This poor resident has received a visit from labour party Cllr Dick. The conversation went on the lines of take the deal or we will CPO you. Please try it Labour party Dick.
 

[yetion1]

HS N92
GIRNHILL
This is a previously developed site within the urban area. The redevelopment of Girnhill Estate is an essential part of
regeneration proposals for Featherstone. Featherstone is classified as an urban settlement, where development of this
scale is appropriate.
Mitigation measures can be taken to resolve or reduce adverse constraint and sustainability issues to acceptable levels.
This is a priority housing redevelopment site. In relation to the Air Quality Action Plan, a planning obligation will be required
to offset the increase in road vehicle trips. A Phase I Desktop Study will be required to identify any potential risks of
contamination. The redesigned housing layout will need to incorporate sufficient accessible greenspace, including a play
area. Other categories of greenspace off-site will require a financial contribution to address quality shortfall. This is a
medium location in relation to current bus services. A minor part of the site is not in the control of the developer and
compulsory purchase order (CPO) procedures are being pursued.

[Whistleblower]

Another one on Girnhill got shuttered up today, glad you got what you wanted Mr C. Only 3 left now 

[seneca bond]

I was brought up in cardboard city and have some happy memories. It was a decent place to live once

[Guardian]

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