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karen
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« on: September 19, 2008, 07:52:49 am »

how many cameras do we have in station lane.
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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2008, 04:20:17 pm »

There is 7 I believe, 5 in the lane and 2 down the sidestreets!

1. Corner of Crossroads out side Fireplace shop.
2. Overlooking the car park & school near the old Kwik Save.
3. Near bus stop outside Farmgate.
4. Back of Library.
5. Outside Lotus Chinese.
6. On the corner just up from Yorkshire Bank.
7. Opposite Last Orders near crossing.

I have had the privilage of visiting the C.C.T.V. control room not long after they were installed when it was in Wakefield (It's moved to Ponte now) and believe me, they can see plenty!

All the camera's rotate 360į and can look straight down the pole on which it's mounted! There isn't a lot they can't see! I know as I have seen it with my own eyes!
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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2008, 01:10:50 pm »

thanks for that is it ok for shops to have there own
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2008, 02:45:29 pm »

Shops are allowed CCTV Cameras.

This is a link to the 1998 Data Protection Guidelines  ( I believe they are still current )

http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/library/data_protection/detailed_specialist_guides/ico_cctvfinal_2301.pdf
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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2008, 06:20:51 pm »

out side there shop someone i know just getting a shop and dident now if they were allowed
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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2008, 06:29:02 pm »



are you sure cam's are working as the 1 near the school looking on to kwik save
car park also gets the b n s sports club on and the police say there is nothing on
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2008, 01:36:32 pm »

They do work believe me, but it all depends on which way they are facing at the time and which way the thieves go!
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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2008, 03:10:04 pm »

CCTV can be a good thing. I know some one who got broken into a few months ago and the police got the blokes because the local mini market had cctv cameras around the back of their shop and it court the blokes going in and out of her back garden with all her stuff.
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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2008, 09:18:17 pm »


There is a big however! cctc law has been changing in recent years to get around legal issues. In all that time and now the law is described very openly. No enforcement of checking use has been pursued.
In plain English for all domestic (looking on to a highway) and light commercial cameras, they should be below bedroom height and with a good reason to use. A sign should be placed in the area to inform people of recording. A log of the footage must be kept. The recording material should be locked away. The person running the equipment should register with the home office under the data protection act. This was free when I applied.

One good change in the law is little known. For years I have heard similar storyís from people asking to view footage only to be turned away.  I helped campaign for the cameras because I knew the value of the evidence to solve crimes, this response was frustrating. If you are robbed you should have the right to find the crook.
The cameras are not perfect but they are bloody good. They do move about regular, but sods law means sometimes you are behind the view. The good bit now is that as the cameras are run by WMDC you can apply for footage to them. If you follow the link below you can apply for footage.

http://www.wakefield.gov.uk/cgi-bin/MsmGo.exe?grab_id=0&page_id=29300&query=cctv&SCOPE=www.wakefield.gov.uk&hiword=cctv%20

I have had no feedback as yet from this request form. Any information would be appreciated.
As for cctv in shops I would personally disagree. Shop lifting is on the up in all manor of disguises from kids with parents to males and prams. Thatís not to mention the violence.
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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2008, 09:33:13 pm »

I understand what you mean Karen, with all the cameras about it can make you feel like you are being spied on. There are cameras up where the shop I was talking about is, well we thought so until there was an assault there and we were told that they are dummy cameras. Personally I don't mind them and with all the robbery's and Vandalism I can't blame anyone for trying to protect their property.   
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« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2008, 06:19:36 am »

i think they should have been all over fev wilow there would be less crime.but then again a big fight broke out late friday night out side big fellas in town i rand police it took them 10 mins to get there and they said they knew who it was who had started it the lot because they had watched it why dint they get them there sooner
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« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2008, 07:58:33 am »

Unfortunately Karen there isn't always a police car available. I know this from experience, I have had them turn up in five minutes when my windows were smashed and take over half an hour to get there when my 13 year old daughter was attacked by two girls outside our house. They do the best they can, but thanks to cctv at least the people that started it wont get away with it.
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« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2008, 01:29:52 pm »

true willow it ended up just befor the court house how long would it have taken them to get there on foot
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« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2008, 02:29:27 pm »

Yes they could have walked from the station but only if there was some one in there at the time. I have know there be only 2 or 3 cars covering Wakefield, Featherstone, Pontefract and Knottingley some weekend Karen.  I'm sure they sent some one as soon as they could. I have had a lot of dealings with the police in the last few years (may I say not from anything I have done wrong.) I can tell you this a lot of them are frustrated  that they are unable to help some people. They do the best they can and I wouldn't do their job for a gold pig.
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« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2008, 06:20:37 pm »

they do willow its all down to money grrr it makes me mad Angry Angry
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« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2009, 05:37:38 pm »

With regards to the last few posts in crime news about all the things that's happened in Station Lane recently! Isn't anyone at the monitoring station spotting anything suspicious? If nothing was seen in person, surely they must have some footage of some sort?
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« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2009, 08:01:21 pm »

Good points MrT. The crimes mentioned I do know have been in touch with CCTV after that we will have to wait to hear feedback.
 Up dates thanks to CCTV are the break-in to Bob In on Station lane. Footage led to an arrest of a person from Sharlston and 8 youths arrested and put on parent programmes for trashing the Christmas light. I am sure there is more to tell perhaps that is also part of the problem, more feedback.
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« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2009, 10:03:31 pm »

I personally know a child from are area that was in station lane smashing the Christmas lights obviously iam not allowed to name names but what I can and will say his parents havenít been put on any parenting programs at all.
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« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2009, 10:34:38 pm »

Not all of them have. Have you reported what you know about the damage totaling over £1000 and finally putting a stop to Christmas lights in the precinct for us all for the long term? Sad
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« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2009, 08:41:59 pm »

CCTV in lane is a good idea but it can't always identify the culprits
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