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« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2008, 07:44:38 pm »

that is a very good question karen, i can understand what yetion is saying with the landlords , and that is the only way to let there shop out is to go with fastfood outlets for a quick rent out.
if you were a landlord would you be willing to wait for a more shall we say respectable outlet or go for the quick buck.
unfortunaty i think featherstone (a once great town) has gone to far into decline, more fast outlets then hull fair ,more shops turning back to houses/flats.
i have to admit that i dont go into the lane on a regular basis to do shopping, but there are a lot of people that dont, and even if we could bring fev back to its former glory i think it would be to late.
one thing to look at is this for me to travel from ackton to staion lane on the bus cost me £1.30.
for the same amount i can go to pont/cas/wake which has more choice of shops.
i cant think of a retail outlet that wants to come to featherstone becouse people dont shop here anymore,
not like they used to do.
this is sad
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« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2008, 08:28:57 pm »

The points you make are valid and are termed “retail opportunity.” The opportunity for business we need in Station lane has been driven away with every new food outlet that opens.
The task to stop the Lane folding was to find a new supermarket. This will be the turning point. The reason is something many would not consider. A new anchor store will bring new customers? The volume will be such that other companies will wish to come also. I was not certain myself as I have not been in a situation like Featherstone at the moment before but all ready due to the new NETTO the old Kwik Save site has been sold again last week. That’s not the end of enquires from other large companies looking to move in. the next couple of months will see some very positive announcements. They will not be an over night solution but at least on the right road forward.
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« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2008, 09:37:41 pm »

Another Take Away in the Jube

Well it looks like we have another Indian restaurant opening soon. My information brings me to believe that the landlords of the Trading Post have tried to remove the business. This has now been left alone as they cannot get planning for a car park there. In the mean time they have bought the Jube and are now making plans for an restaurant. I imagine that they will need no planning as our British public houses are all ready geared up. Yet another victim of the smoking ban and recession that our pubs now are being bought up. I wonder what the world record for takeaways in a town is. we hold the one for number on a street all ready Tongue
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« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2008, 02:17:10 pm »

I don't see the problem with a restaurant. I would imagine the building could be turned into a lovely eatery. Now a takeaway is a totally different story.

I still don't understand why people always quote the smoking ban when talking about the demise of pubs. I still see plenty of smokers outside pubs, bars and clubs. It's got much more to do with the cost of drink at the supermarkets where you can buy stella at the equivelant of 50p per pint. What is it in a pub, not far off £3 Huh Only this week there are adverts for 3 crates of strong beer for £20. That amount would keep me going for a month, but £20 wouldn't cover a night in a pub. But I digress.
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« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2008, 03:14:31 pm »

Take away or restaurant does it really matter do they think nobody in Featherstone can cook.
I have great admiration for those smokers you have seen outside pub, but will you see as many now the cold weather is here. I haven't been in a pub since the ban started, then again I didn't really go in many before. I know a lot of my friends don't go out anymore and have friends round instead not because of cheap beer but because they can't have a ciggie anymore. Give me a warm room, a cig and a beer and I'm happy.
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« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2008, 03:52:00 pm »

To be honest I can't see it doing a lot of trade, what with the recession and smoking ban. Like you say, it's cheaper to eat and drink at home in comfort and I don't have to freeze my frock off to have a smoke.
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« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2008, 05:34:52 pm »

thats true kim i dont get why we need this many as it is and as for the smoking ban thats just made things worse as well  as more fights on the street
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« Reply #27 on: April 19, 2009, 10:47:43 am »

 we got another fish shop in station lane
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« Reply #28 on: September 28, 2009, 09:28:40 pm »

the total of running A5 food outlets on Station lane is now 17 (excluding pubs).
Are you ready for no 18.............Motorcare Shocked Sad

a meeting has been held with WMDC to discuss an attempt at a pilot sceme to stop the Lane becoming closed all day.
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« Reply #29 on: September 29, 2009, 05:46:54 pm »

Just what we bloody need, NOT!!!! Sad
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« Reply #30 on: September 30, 2009, 11:21:44 am »

I don't profess to know much about Planning applications, but surely there must be a limit to the number of "same type" businesses allowed within such a small area? 
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« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2009, 08:49:54 pm »

I’ve asked that question for years to heads of departments. The reply always “we will look in to it”, but that was the end.
Went to a meeting last week and the subject came up. There was a  lady from WMDC planning. Apparently WMDC are in a test case that could if won, could be used as a president. Ironically I am aware that a council can make a decision as it has been done before.
The same lady was seen yesterday taking pictures in Station Lane?

Personally I smell a shift of politics finally getting Featherstone help.
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« Reply #32 on: October 31, 2009, 10:24:35 pm »

 ACTION CAN BE TAKEN. PERHAPS THERE IS MORE?

http://www.itv.com/News/Articles/Fast-food-joint-too-close-to-school-124328940.html
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« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2009, 08:22:05 pm »

Motorcares planning is in.

An old argument is part of ALL planning applications is a fat trap.

Plannings get out is no staff to enforce. Reality is the fat keeps appearing. The latest victim is Duffys who had a back log arrive from the most recent passed takeaway.

Seems ok for buisness to pay for clean up and thier rates by WMDC. To the real world it is another on going example of how WMDC operate in Featherstone.
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« Reply #34 on: December 16, 2009, 09:49:54 pm »

Just wondering if anything can be done with the many pizza and burger boxes left every night in the lane and around Featherstone?
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« Reply #35 on: February 28, 2010, 08:01:50 pm »

Looks like the WMDC attempt to use a new president has failed,

http://planning.wakefield.gov.uk/online-applications/simpleSearchResults.do;jsessionid=4A805660C02A0C0C83F6C411332797A2?action=firstPage

so thats one more in Station lane and one more on Featherstone lane
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« Reply #36 on: February 28, 2010, 08:31:48 pm »

WMDC, WTF are you playing at, i'm bloody speachless Huh Roll Eyes
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« Reply #37 on: February 28, 2010, 11:20:20 pm »

There's more bloody takeaways than shops  Angry
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« Reply #38 on: December 12, 2010, 09:28:38 pm »

Ian Thompson
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Wakefield
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12.12.2009

Ref: planning application, 10 The Precinct, Station Lane, and any further take away applications on Station Lane

Dear Mr Thompson and the planning panel

The above mentioned application would be a further negative input towards the regeneration of Featherstone and its town centre.

For over 8 years many volunteers and councillors have worked tirelessly to improve station lane and Thus Featherstone. This extends to the Featherstone master plan that has mentioned the saturation of takeaways on Station Lane. The negatives also destroy the work being carried out within the Featherstone renaissance programme presently in action. A regeneration area is not an excuse to replace all the shops with fast food outlets.  This now hinders improvement and leaves a cloud over Featherstone as there is no limit to any one business type. As a Town we are vulnerable to developments of the wrong sort and are now relying on WMDC planning to see sense and take action.

In the short distance from the bottom of Station lane  and only part way up to the cross roads there is all ready 16 fast food outlets open and running. There are also 2 pubs. There are 3 other shops that have consent but are shut. There will probably a further application shortly to turn another shop in to a food outlet. The near future looks to see 18 open fast food outlets that could overnight become 21.

Some may consider that it is unfair for the chamber to condemn new business. Our decision is based on pure saturation that leaves many shops closed all day and only opening at night as takeaways. This is not helping the regeneration of the town that is becoming commercially un-friendly due to the spread of shops. The location of this application is the Precinct and the town centre. If this application were passed then the town centre would be shut almost completely during the day except for one shop “the pet shop”.

The retail opportunity in Featherstone is dying by the week. The problem is not only in Featherstone but also prominent in Pontefract, Hemsworth Market street, Barnsley road South Elmsall, Osett town centre and Wakefield town centre. This is not to mention the 5PM smell in station lane, the drainage problems with fat and the rubbish that the council pay to clear yet do not enforce the fat traps that are part of planning applications. The anti social behaviour from youths, who congregate in front of some of these, ranges from graffiti to bricks through car windows. Station lane and other wards are becoming a lesser place to wish to be in on an evening and to trade during the day due to this. The precinct in Station lane for example is actually being ripped up daily.
So serious are the efforts towards regeneration that the coal regeneration trust who are working here for the next 3 years hands on, have also voiced their concerns to the WMDC regeneration department.
I again plead with the planning board to take any steps they can to place a maximum number of A5 units in station lane. How we get there is unknown. What is known is that 1 more is the end of any hope of regeneration.

The British local economy including Featherstone and its surrounding wards has dived to commercial rock bottom. What some profiteer landlords that don’t give a dam about the area have worked out is that if they apply for planning permission for A5 consent ( or fast food outlet) that they can be almost certain to rent the property within 24 hours. You have to ask why 24 hours. So many takeaways cannot be profitable?

There is a solution? Wakefield council has the power and resources to “opt out”. This option would be a policy implemented by WMDC that could regulate types of business and the volume of premises. The many years of work to find this solution was rewarded by the creation 2 years ago of a landmark policy adopted by another borough. The details of this were formulated in to a document by Cllr Binnersley that I believe was present to WMDC in January 2010. The policy has been approved by cabinet and is set to possibly become reality sometime in the spring of 2011. Although the policy is not fully implemented it has been in the WMDC system long enough for a possible pilot test to be carried out. This application would be a good test of the new way forward.

Whilst attending regeneration meetings this subject of takeaways has been raised. I am sure you are aware of the many senior members of this group. It is fair to say that ALL cannot believe that yet another fast food outlet is to be considered. No one is against anyone getting on, expanding existing premises or moving premises. The concern is simply the sheer numbers.
Recent government information also informs me that there is a drive to remove “junk food” from the doors of our schools with an exclusion area of about 400 metres. This application falls within that guideline. The ice cream man has been removed from the near by school so there must be some knowledge of this legislation. If another take away were to open surely the ice-cream man could go back.
Replies from senior members of WMDC planning and council verify in writing that they cannot go against legislation and policy. I hope that at last the planning panel has been given enough levers that help regenerate areas and not hinder them.

Regards
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« Reply #39 on: February 04, 2011, 08:57:58 pm »

It appears that a small but significant victory occurred yesterday at the WMDC planning hearing that will now be a president for Featherstone and the UK.
If you have followed the forum you will be aware that for almost four years many people have objected against any more takeaways opening on Station Lane.
Yesterday in planning the years of objection and the reasons why finally saw sense with the first rejection of a takeaway ever in Featherstone. The Clothes shop has failed as another Indian takeaway. Hopefully from here on we should all be able to quote this and stop Featherstone becoming over run.
Hurray for little old Featherstone.
 Grin Grin Grin
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