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how many cameras do we have in station lane.

There is 7 I believe, 5 in the lane and 2 down the sidestreets!

1. Corner of Crossroads out side Fireplace shop.
2. Overlooking the car park & school near the old Kwik Save.
3. Near bus stop outside Farmgate.
4. Back of Library.
5. Outside Lotus Chinese.
6. On the corner just up from Yorkshire Bank.
7. Opposite Last Orders near crossing.

I have had the privilage of visiting the C.C.T.V. control room not long after they were installed when it was in Wakefield (It's moved to Ponte now) and believe me, they can see plenty!

All the camera's rotate 360° and can look straight down the pole on which it's mounted! There isn't a lot they can't see! I know as I have seen it with my own eyes!

thanks for that is it ok for shops to have there own

Shops are allowed CCTV Cameras.

This is a link to the 1998 Data Protection Guidelines  ( I believe they are still current )

http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/library/data_protection/detailed_specialist_guides/ico_cctvfinal_2301.pdf (http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/library/data_protection/detailed_specialist_guides/ico_cctvfinal_2301.pdf)

out side there shop someone i know just getting a shop and dident now if they were allowed

are you sure cam's are working as the 1 near the school looking on to kwik save
car park also gets the b n s sports club on and the police say there is nothing on
them

They do work believe me, but it all depends on which way they are facing at the time and which way the thieves go!

CCTV can be a good thing. I know some one who got broken into a few months ago and the police got the blokes because the local mini market had cctv cameras around the back of their shop and it court the blokes going in and out of her back garden with all her stuff.

There is a big however! cctc law has been changing in recent years to get around legal issues. In all that time and now the law is described very openly. No enforcement of checking use has been pursued.
In plain English for all domestic (looking on to a highway) and light commercial cameras, they should be below bedroom height and with a good reason to use. A sign should be placed in the area to inform people of recording. A log of the footage must be kept. The recording material should be locked away. The person running the equipment should register with the home office under the data protection act. This was free when I applied.

One good change in the law is little known. For years I have heard similar story’s from people asking to view footage only to be turned away.  I helped campaign for the cameras because I knew the value of the evidence to solve crimes, this response was frustrating. If you are robbed you should have the right to find the crook.
The cameras are not perfect but they are bloody good. They do move about regular, but sods law means sometimes you are behind the view. The good bit now is that as the cameras are run by WMDC you can apply for footage to them. If you follow the link below you can apply for footage.

http://www.wakefield.gov.uk/cgi-bin/MsmGo.exe?grab_id=0&page_id=29300&query=cctv&SCOPE=www.wakefield.gov.uk&hiword=cctv%20

I have had no feedback as yet from this request form. Any information would be appreciated.
As for cctv in shops I would personally disagree. Shop lifting is on the up in all manor of disguises from kids with parents to males and prams. That’s not to mention the violence.

I understand what you mean Karen, with all the cameras about it can make you feel like you are being spied on. There are cameras up where the shop I was talking about is, well we thought so until there was an assault there and we were told that they are dummy cameras. Personally I don't mind them and with all the robbery's and Vandalism I can't blame anyone for trying to protect their property.   

i think they should have been all over fev wilow there would be less crime.but then again a big fight broke out late friday night out side big fellas in town i rand police it took them 10 mins to get there and they said they knew who it was who had started it the lot because they had watched it why dint they get them there sooner

Unfortunately Karen there isn't always a police car available. I know this from experience, I have had them turn up in five minutes when my windows were smashed and take over half an hour to get there when my 13 year old daughter was attacked by two girls outside our house. They do the best they can, but thanks to cctv at least the people that started it wont get away with it.

true willow it ended up just befor the court house how long would it have taken them to get there on foot

Yes they could have walked from the station but only if there was some one in there at the time. I have know there be only 2 or 3 cars covering Wakefield, Featherstone, Pontefract and Knottingley some weekend Karen.  I'm sure they sent some one as soon as they could. I have had a lot of dealings with the police in the last few years (may I say not from anything I have done wrong.) I can tell you this a lot of them are frustrated  that they are unable to help some people. They do the best they can and I wouldn't do their job for a gold pig.

they do willow its all down to money grrr it makes me mad >:( >:(

With regards to the last few posts in crime news about all the things that's happened in Station Lane recently! Isn't anyone at the monitoring station spotting anything suspicious? If nothing was seen in person, surely they must have some footage of some sort?

Good points MrT. The crimes mentioned I do know have been in touch with CCTV after that we will have to wait to hear feedback.
 Up dates thanks to CCTV are the break-in to Bob In on Station lane. Footage led to an arrest of a person from Sharlston and 8 youths arrested and put on parent programmes for trashing the Christmas light. I am sure there is more to tell perhaps that is also part of the problem, more feedback.

I personally know a child from are area that was in station lane smashing the Christmas lights obviously iam not allowed to name names but what I can and will say his parents haven’t been put on any parenting programs at all.

Not all of them have. Have you reported what you know about the damage totaling over £1000 and finally putting a stop to Christmas lights in the precinct for us all for the long term? :(

CCTV in lane is a good idea but it can't always identify the culprits

Did the CCTV in the Nisa store on Priory Road catch a shoplifter last week?

Allegedly yes ;D :P

You seriously need to get your facts right Yeti!

From all the staff here at Nisa

Dear Nisa or Little Miss Sunshine on behalf of Nisa?

Dont quite understand the responce?
The original post again,

"Did the CCTV in the Nisa store on Priory Road catch a shoplifter last week?"

Just asking about the facts only as other shops should know if there is a problem.

Over the last month there has been a new trend of early morning break-ins to the rear of business premises on Station lane. To my knowledge there have been 5 incidents. Probably not all have been reported.
Given the times of the burglaries and the lack of property stolen kind of narrows down the intent.
Perhaps the police should take a look at CCTV especially of 3 white males early in the mornings that often sit on the bench at the side of the Farm Gate at about the same time.

As the police announce they will not be responding to your report of a minor crime they suggest an alternative of asking neighbours for help or installing a cctv camera. The vigilante groups I hope will now form are another subject. But the cctv is a good idea as long as you know a little of what you should look for.
If you are looking at installing cctv I hope these tips may help,
1.   Price is everything. A good 4 camera system will cost you about £120. All systems are fairly easy to wire up as they have standard plugs and automatic set up. If you have a little know how you can pick up recorders for £10 with missing hard drives that are easy to replace for a max of £30 depending on memory size.
2.   The recording device: The bigger the memory (how long you can record) the higher the price. Memory is shown in Mega Bytes and now Tera Bites. Cheap units are 250 MB, the latest units are over 1 TB. The bigger the memory the longer you can record for with more cameras.
3.   Cameras: There are thousands of cameras from £5 to £500. Camera quality is measured in pixels. The higher the pixels the better the picture. The better the picture the more memory used. A 600 pixel camera will meet most domestic needs. A 4 camera system with 600 pixel cameras using 500 MB recorder will record for about 2.5 months before recording over itself. Many cameras now have LED lights/ infrared. What this means is that when it gets dark the picture remains the same as if it was daylight. You will see many makes. The best tip is companies that use a Sony lense are usually the better quality
4.   Wireless systems: The idea of no cables is an easy option and will record something, but if you require detail in the picture these systems at a budget cost are best avoided.
5.   There are plenty of second hand units for sale on sites like E-Bay. The only down side is the LEDs on cameras have a life of about 3 to 6 years and start to fail.
Camera systems are a great tool to protect yourself and fight crime. It is one of those subjects that when something does happen your interest grows. The plus is that you can keep adding and changing any item to improve your system.

Less than 10 minutes ago 2 women described as Romanian entered Dransfields. Whilst one caused a distraction the other took the till takings. Made off in a Jaguar down Station Lane. Have you seen this car or the 2 women. If so please call the police.