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Title: Girnhill Lane Archived News 6
Post by: Kim685 on January 20, 2011, 08:50:45 pm
I was brought up in cardboard city and have some happy memories. It was a decent place to live once
It was a lovely estate years ago


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: yetion1 on January 30, 2011, 02:30:11 pm
Looks like WMDC will be ignoring every security and safety issue they have been made aware of for the last 5 years, AGAIN.

Suppose WMDC consider the new rockery in front an improvement. The neighbors surrounding paying full rates do not.

The properties boarded up this week just had to be incorrect. Notice the same thin tin sheets nailed to the windows. Also notice the “strong door cover”. So strong it has been bent back with a piece of 4” x 1”. WMDC could ask how do you know? Because the wood used the prize back the door cover is still stuck in the frame.

The best bit has to be the can of petrol placed next to the front door. Looks like our taxes will be paying for the fire brigade again.
How soon before the 112th fire? Days, weeks, months?

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Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: Whistleblower on January 30, 2011, 02:49:55 pm
Has the council tipped the rubbish there ?  ???


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: yetion1 on February 04, 2011, 08:47:56 pm
Joanne Roney OBE

Chief Executive

Wakefield Council

Town Hall

Wood Street

WAKEFIELD

WF1 2HQ

04.02.2011

Ref: Another house fire and more shortly

Dear Mrs Roney OBE

My apologies for having to bring this issue to your attention but over the last four years your officers have been contacted and informed verbally and in writing with huge concerns regards the arson attacks on the Featherstone Girnhill Estate that still continue to this day. The records are extensive and are well worth a read.

Sadly today again after WMDC did not listen or act the 113th house fire on the estate in 4 years was started by arsonists.

My reason for contacting you is obviously in the hope that this madness will be stopped but also to inform you of the events of this week as they are a very good example of what has been going on.

At the end of last week shutters were fitted to houses on the estate after residents had moved out. By Saturday afternoon the front door shutter of one house had been prized open with a small piece of timber and an attempt had been made to poor petrol in to the opening. This was reported to WMDC on Saturday. By Sunday afternoon the door was still prized open and the timber used to bend the door was still stuck in the door. The petrol can used was also still by the front door.

By Tuesday nothing had changed. At the Featherstone regeneration meeting Tuesday evening Janet Howley who has been contacted tens of times over the years gave information that the timber and petrol can had been removed and that repairs had been made. Also WMDC were paying for 24 hour security.

I again informed the officers present that;

1. The window shutters were again tin foil and worthless

2. The door shutters were less adequate than the ones that WMDC had actually agreed work and had begun to fit at previous addresses.

3. The door shutter was still prized open with the timber lever still in the frame.

4. A petrol can was still at the front door.

5. Unless immediate action was taken the houses would burn down with in days.

6. Any houses burning would have to be attended by the Fire service. This is an unfair cost and use of their service that could be better used else where.

I received a call today just before 1pm that the same house was now on fire. I have a particular interest in this house for the reasons I have stated and further because it was the home of a good friend. After 35 minutes due to the new traffic queues, pile of tarmac in the middle of the road and a HGV coming towards me the wrong way up a one way system I managed to travel the 1 mile to the property. I noticed as I neared the property “usual suspects”. I found 2 Fire appliances putting out the outbuildings.

The timber lever was still in the damaged front door and the petrol can was still by the door. Nothing had altered. It appears that the security is blatantly non existent. The security company needs sacking.

Sadly by the time you read these concerns the property/s will be burnt to the ground. Not that this appears to concern WMDC.

I have to ask. Why the continued inadequacies?

For the sake of others lives I have copied this letter to the Arson Task Force.

I have also copied this letter to the local police inspector as up until a big fuss was made recently the police stance on the 100 plus arsons was that they had never been reported to them.

WMDC have been provided with data sheets showing what shutters will actually work. I would appreciate your intervention to prevent more fires.

Regards ;)

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Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: Doberman1979 on February 18, 2011, 10:23:09 am
Hi all

Did Girnhill residents all use the same solicitor? If so does anyone have their details please?

Simon


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: yetion1 on February 21, 2011, 07:42:27 pm
Over the years there have been about 3/ 4 solicitors. A few were employed by private individuals for themselves. The majority have used one solicitor who is still active on the case and who has also quite often worked for free.
For the obvious reasons and not to post on a forum, happy to email the name and number if it helps. ;D


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: Doberman1979 on February 21, 2011, 07:52:27 pm
Would you mind please? as an admin do you see my email address in my profile?


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: seneca bond on March 04, 2011, 06:44:27 pm
how sad
I was brought up in Ashcroft Avenue-'Scotch Hill'
I don't go in for nostalgia, but it was good lioving there whan I was a kid.


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: yetion1 on March 19, 2011, 09:50:55 pm
A recent comment by some one calling themselves Christopher regards the Girnhill estate missed the latest pictures…
Must be just before demolition time a again as last night the firers started again… but hey they are secure and watched??? ::)


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: Whistleblower on March 20, 2011, 03:32:04 pm
What got set on fire this time ?


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: yetion1 on March 21, 2011, 08:56:18 pm
Sorry Whistleblower I should have made it clearer. The day before the corner house on Girnhill was to be demolished it was set on fire. It was knocked down before a picture was taken.


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: yetion1 on June 20, 2011, 07:11:04 pm
Had this passed today and had to smile at the spirit. Go on girl... ;D

To the editor
I was intrigued to read more of your article “regeneration top on town’s agenda”. As a Featherstone Girnhill Estate resident I was shocked to read the comment from Cllr Graham Isherwood “it just shows were going in the right direction”. History states that Cllr Isherwood was one of those responsible for creating the hellish estate I have had to live in for the past eight years after his vote to improve.
Cllr Isherwood lives in Featherstone and being a Featherstone Cllr I wonder if he has considered moving in to the many empty houses on my estate he voted to make empty and run down? There are plenty of bargains up here on the estate that is if you go by the valuation from Wakefield District Council.

Yours

A female Featherstone resident


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: Forkhandles on June 20, 2011, 07:23:23 pm
Graham isherwood does live in featherstone ;D


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: seneca bond on June 20, 2011, 07:46:56 pm
I thought Graham isherwood does live in featherstone ;D
born and bred


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: Forkhandles on June 20, 2011, 08:40:19 pm
I thought Graham isherwood does live in featherstone ;D
born and bred

Yes,i've known him all my life he was born and brought up in purston on the estate at the back of the travs,lea lane. ;D


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: yetion1 on June 22, 2011, 08:36:36 pm
Let’s hope the P&C point that out.
You can’t fault the comments as Cllr Isherwoods signature was the last thing the Girnhill residents were given before he ran off to a safe seat in Crofton. Eight years later what help can he offer the residents whose homes he helped to sink?


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: Whistleblower on June 23, 2011, 04:57:34 pm
http://www.pontefractandcastlefordexpress.co.uk/news/local/we_will_not_be_forced_out_1_3507753 (http://www.pontefractandcastlefordexpress.co.uk/news/local/we_will_not_be_forced_out_1_3507753)


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: Whistleblower on June 23, 2011, 05:07:40 pm
I bet Isherwood daren't knock on Mrs Greaves door with a cpo notice  ;D go on Graham i dare you  ;) ;D


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: seneca bond on June 23, 2011, 05:56:46 pm
I thought Graham isherwood does live in featherstone ;D
born and bred

Yes,i've known him all my life he was born and brought up in purston on the estate at the back of the travs,lea lane. ;D
me too
his mam and dad Les and May were my unofficial uncle and auntie. I used to stay at their house sometimes. Les was my dad's best mate.


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: yetion1 on June 24, 2011, 08:16:52 pm
I raise my hat and bow to the best heartedly put forward TV coverage with best solicitor’s statement given yet on behalf of the abused Girnhill residents. If you missed look north at 6.30pm tonight then its well worth a look at 10.25pm tonight.
For those who viewed tonight how ironic that the reporter had rubble thrown at him. Such has been the blatant disregard by a few youths and part of the torment they have caused for over five years.

You have my arm to fight for your castles on the forth coming day. Where the politics stand will be very, very interesting.


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: Victor on June 24, 2011, 08:59:39 pm
Excellent coverage, they probably wont show as much later though


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: yetion1 on October 10, 2011, 08:21:31 pm
Looks like the final battle is about to begin.

http://www.pontefractandcastlefordexpress.co.uk/news/local/ackworth/resident_will_fight_for_home_1_3842886


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: seneca bond on October 11, 2011, 11:32:45 am
Looks like the final battle is about to begin.

http://www.pontefractandcastlefordexpress.co.uk/news/local/ackworth/resident_will_fight_for_home_1_3842886

sounds a good deal to me

surely she can't want to live in that hole? She could hardly sell the thing on the open market.

I was brought up on that estate, and have happy memories of life amongst decent, interesting people and good friends.


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: Whistleblower on October 11, 2011, 06:41:49 pm
Looks like the final battle is about to begin.

http://www.pontefractandcastlefordexpress.co.uk/news/local/ackworth/resident_will_fight_for_home_1_3842886

sounds a good deal to me

surely she can't want to live in that hole? She could hardly sell the thing on the open market.
 
I agree, with the state of the housing market today she could get one hell of an house for £150000. I can understand her commitment but you have to be realistic about it, thanks to labour and wmdc the estates finished and sadly its time to move on. :(


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: yetion1 on October 11, 2011, 08:32:09 pm
Hang on senacca. The house in question for example is worth more than yours but is in the same price value bracket. Would you take £100k plus a loan that still leaves part of your new home owned by someone else? Think not.
For the misery caused and the legal fees that will be incurred out of our tax the best solution is simply to pay the good lady what she asks.


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: seneca bond on October 11, 2011, 09:11:00 pm
Hang on senacca. The house in question for example is worth more than yours but is in the same price value bracket. Would you take £100k plus a loan that still leaves part of your new home owned by someone else? Think not.
For the misery caused and the legal fees that will be incurred out of our tax the best solution is simply to pay the good lady what she asks.


If I'd been stupid enough to get into that situation: buying a house and spending lots of money on it-this is quite clkear by looking at it, in an area that had been dying for years and was getting worse in front of my eyes, I'd be glad of the second chance.


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: yetion1 on October 11, 2011, 09:42:53 pm
Stupid! Now that’s a good one. Check out soft brick houses. That was your investment.
Who said the area was dying? WMDC held back on that one, read back on the files.
So a second chance is to loose out on your retirement plan. Ironic this could be you because of a different problem.


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: seneca bond on October 12, 2011, 09:21:09 am
Stupid! Now that’s a good one. Check out soft brick houses. That was your investment.
Who said the area was dying? WMDC held back on that one, read back on the files.
So a second chance is to loose out on your retirement plan. Ironic this could be you because of a different problem.


the plaace had been going downhill for decades.

My father owned his house on Ashcroft Avenue because he could see the direction the estate was heading in. It had been our home since 1959, and it was a great place to live, even if it was knowen as 'cardboard city', but it was deteriorating in front of his eyes and he got out. Why? Because he wasn't stupid.

it won't be me, because I have retired. My mortgage aftyer years of hard work in a responsible job by me nd my wife is paid.

People should take responsibility for their own lives. The 'second chance' is to be esxtricated from a self created mess.


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: yetion1 on October 12, 2011, 07:38:29 pm
The Pont & Cas portrays a picture of one resident although mentioning others. There are three residents left. For what it will cost to serve, fight and pursue a compulsory purchase order funded out of our tax’s surly it would be wise to simply pay the market price out of the money allocated to do this. The same pot of cash used to pay all the other people off and also the same pot that over the last 7 years has increased in payout size. That is unless the pot of cash has been used elsewhere?

How can people caught in a Big Brother made hell be responsible for the position they are now in?


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: seneca bond on October 12, 2011, 09:52:15 pm
the market price of these houses is just about zero. The houses are worthless.

What they are being offered far exceeds what the houses are worth.

These people have only themselves to blame.


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: Whistleblower on October 13, 2011, 04:58:12 pm
Stupid! Now that’s a good one. Check out soft brick houses. That was your investment.
Who said the area was dying? WMDC held back on that one, read back on the files.
So a second chance is to loose out on your retirement plan. Ironic this could be you because of a different problem.


the plaace had been going downhill for decades.

My father owned his house on Ashcroft Avenue because he could see the direction the estate was heading in. It had been our home since 1959, and it was a great place to live, even if it was knowen as 'cardboard city', but it was deteriorating in front of his eyes and he got out. Why? Because he wasn't stupid.

it won't be me, because I have retired. My mortgage aftyer years of hard work in a responsible job by me nd my wife is paid.

People should take responsibility for their own lives. The 'second chance' is to be esxtricated from a self created mess.
He got £8000 for it, if he’d kept it and rented it out when he went into the pub business you could be getting £150000 for it now plus all them years rent  ???


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: Whistleblower on October 13, 2011, 05:05:01 pm
the market price of these houses is just about zero. The houses are worthless.

What they are being offered far exceeds what the houses are worth.

These people have only themselves to blame.
How do you work that out, yes I agree it’s a good offer for a house with a structural defect but you cant blame them for the way the estates gone, that’s down to our glorious Labour council, have a read on here its all documented


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: seneca bond on October 13, 2011, 05:41:27 pm
the market price of these houses is just about zero. The houses are worthless.

What they are being offered far exceeds what the houses are worth.

These people have only themselves to blame.
How do you work that out, yes I agree it’s a good offer for a house with a structural defect but you cant blame them for the way the estates gone, that’s down to our glorious Labour council, have a read on here its all documented
I'm not blaming anyone for anything.
other people had the foresight and common sense to sell there houses.
why should people who didn't have that common sense and foresight be subsidised? Because that's what it ammounts to


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: yetion1 on October 13, 2011, 07:59:06 pm
Hang on a minute; yes you are blaming the residents. People were bullied out of their homes for a pittance of the value. You state you dislike bullies. You should hear the tape recordings (whoops that person was quickly moved to another department).
So what you are saying after reading all the facts just here nether mind else where is that is an O.A.P. bullied out of their home early on for 25% of their property value was the person at fault?
The people left are not scared of bullies. Lanbour Cllr Graham Isherwood was recently told to get lost when he called a resident with a false sales pitch.
Common sense or fight the rip off Big Brother.


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: seneca bond on October 13, 2011, 08:53:12 pm
the place had been going down the tubes for years. Anybody with half a brain sold their houses well before this fiasco.


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: yetion1 on October 14, 2011, 06:33:25 pm
So what all your negative words boil down to, in your opinion, is none of the residents that are left have at least half a brain. A bit harsh when talking about Featherstone folk. :(


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: seneca bond on October 14, 2011, 07:10:04 pm
well they haven't acted very smartly, maybe they were greedy I don't know. I don't believe in stereotyping entire groups of people with ther same characteristics.


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: Forkhandles on October 14, 2011, 07:53:03 pm
I know two of the residents who have taken the offer,and both were satisfied ;D


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: yetion1 on January 24, 2012, 07:58:51 pm
Oh dear, the planning application put forward to WMDC planning Just before Christmas (the best time to use days off to get an application passed) for an alteration of highways did not pass. Instead un-usually it also did not fail but was  referred “due to a number of complications”.
Complications all right! How do you amend a planning application that has not yet passed? Sure WMDC will show us the way.
Also interesting is the highways response when questioned how much tax payers money has been wasted on behalf of the commercial company conducting the development, “we will do what we see fit”.

Oh dear Oh dear it appears there is another bully on the scene. Another Girnhill resident has been verbally attacked in public by a Cllr regards getting him out. Will the Pont & Cas print this? ::)


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: Kim685 on January 25, 2012, 11:58:10 pm
Came through Girnhill last week and there looks to be only 1 occupied house left?


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: Whistleblower on February 11, 2012, 12:51:40 pm
Came through Girnhill last week and there looks to be only 1 occupied house left?
3 left, although 1 is empty and available for rent  :)


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: yetion1 on February 11, 2012, 06:54:19 pm
Missed that one. That would make a great A1 outlet with a view if planning cosent for conversion to retail was obtained. ;D ;)


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: Whistleblower on February 11, 2012, 07:49:46 pm
Missed that one. That would make a great A1 outlet with a view if planning cosent for conversion to retail was obtained. ;D ;)
Cant see that beign a problem  ???  ;D


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: yetion1 on February 13, 2012, 06:30:27 pm
Does anyone have any footage of the last demolishions? ;)


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: yetion1 on February 14, 2012, 08:49:22 pm
Take a look at Look North tonight for its Girnhill report.


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: yetion1 on February 15, 2012, 06:47:26 pm

WMDC press release ::)

http://www.wakefield.gov.uk/News/PressReleases/news/PR3329.htm


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: yetion1 on February 15, 2012, 06:49:22 pm
Look North report

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-17033238#story_continues_1


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: yetion1 on February 15, 2012, 07:44:21 pm
Featherstone Girnhill Residents refuse to be ripped off!

It appears that the continuing fight for justice to resolve the Girnhill problem will still be an un-truthful and dirty fight.
Headlines and reports over this week appear to be mainly based on the statement issued by WMDC that appears to paint a picture very different from reality.

The beginning of the last chapter started in December 2010. WMDC applied for planning permission to build a road on the estate. Nothing odd you think except WMDC do not own the land in question. This land is still owned by the residents and the developer of the new estate. The twist is that a compulsory purchase order is usually only enforceable when there is a highways issue. When have you ever seen a housing development that has its roads applied for in planning first? Not surprisingly WMDCs planning application was not passed by its own planning committee due to its irregularities.
Andy Wallhead head of WMDC regeneration commented on TV that anyone wishing to stay on the estate would be able to. The remaining residents do. Is this now a un-truth? The remaining 3 homes could be built around and have offered to swap about to help the devotement. This is being ignored.

The biggest un-truth appears as well worded comments that suggest the residents are being greedy. Nothing could be further from the truth. WMDC claim they are offering full market price plus £50k. If this was on the table all the remaining residents would be signed up and out. The Offers made by WMDC are public record but have been conveniently not mentioned.

The cost to the public funds to issue a CPO will be far bigger than to actually pay out the amounts claimed by WMDC. Let’s hope the Secretary of State comments on this.

This could happen to anyone. Please lend your support to these brave people over the coming weeks.


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: yetion1 on February 20, 2012, 06:27:04 pm
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Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: yetion1 on March 12, 2012, 09:33:19 pm
A new planning application to close the highway to the remaining residents has been filled. This would create an un-serviceable area for police, fire and ambulance in the highest arson rate area for miles.
Looks like the residents will need a 4 x 4 now to get home. ::)


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: Forkhandles on March 13, 2012, 07:19:02 pm
A new planning application to close the highway to the remaining residents has been filled. This would create an un-serviceable area for police, fire and ambulance in the highest arson rate area for miles.
Looks like the residents will need a 4 x 4 now to get home. ::)

This is a matter of concern,surely its breaking some sort of law :(


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: John on March 23, 2012, 09:18:14 pm
Is there any news about the road being closed?


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: yetion1 on June 30, 2012, 08:10:36 pm
Something must be going on. A new self proclaimed expert who lives on Girnhill Lane (nice side) and who works for Doncaster Council has informed some remaining residents that the secretary of state has refused a public enquiry. This information is apparently backed up by a certain Labour and District Cllr.
Has anyone heard anything?


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: Whistleblower on June 30, 2012, 09:30:28 pm
I was told today the councill has withdrawn the cpo ???


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: yetion1 on July 08, 2012, 03:22:39 pm
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.
Looks like the info was wrong! ::)
How a Labour Cllr’s agreement to begin the demise of the Girnhill Estate will now finally slap him in the face. Due to the continued persistence of WMDC not to pay a fair price for property and by applying for a CPO order to kick out the remaining residents on the estate, a whole can of worms has now publicly opened. We the public just pay the bill for this madness.
The residents in defense of the CPO threat have provided their information to the Secretary of State. The facts over the last 13 years have provided enough significant evidence that the Secretary of state has not agreed with WMDC and has now called a public enquiry. The purpose of the enquiry is to gather further evidence and hear from anyone involved or with knowledge of the events.
The enquiry will be held in Wakefield, probably somewhere like the Cedar Court hotel. WMDC will be paying the bill for this and all the legal teams involved. What a huge waste of public money. Why don’t WMDC not just give in and pay the fair price to the last 3 residents and still have money left over compared to the legal costs about to be inquired.

What ever your view its now time to be heard. If you have been a resident at some point or are someone associated with the Girnhill Estate you will be able now to stand up and have your say. All those years of torment are now about to become very public. Shortly there will be public advertisements showing details of the enquiry.

This is going to be very interesting…………… :o ;D


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: Whistleblower on July 08, 2012, 04:53:38 pm
Nice one  :)  I bet there’s a few wmdc employees getting a bit hot under the collar about this  ;D I wonder if any residents that left because of the threat of cpo will be able to claim any compensation  ???  worth a try  ;)   


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Latest News
Post by: Kim685 on July 08, 2012, 06:53:23 pm
I wonder if any residents that left because of the threat of cpo will be able to claim any compensation  ???  worth a try  ;)   
Was just thinking that myself


Title: Re: Girnhill Lane Archived News 6
Post by: Guardian on August 09, 2012, 10:31:49 pm


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